CH Phipps sits down with CH (1LT) Matthew Tramel, Sabre Squadron chaplain and newest Unit Ministry Team (UMT) member to the 3d CR family and SGT Angelise Torres, Thunder Squadron's current Religious Affairs NCO. Each share their journey into the Chaplain Corps as they discuss the need for Trooper resiliency and and how it plays into strong organizational leadership. (Recorded on 26 September 2025.)