In this episode, Jenna and Bill reflect on powerful character arcs and leadership journeys within the Star Trek universe. From Burnham’s path of redemption and groundbreaking representation, to Pike’s quiet strength and compassionate command, to Shaw’s gritty realism in a messy galaxy—each captain brings something vital to the table. They also shine a light on lesser-known but equally impactful leaders like Saru, Georgiou, and Archer. What does leadership look like when the stakes are cosmic—and personal?