Lenses for tomorrow is the official podcast of the european project FEDORA. A journey in 5 episodes on how to develop a future-oriented model for science education to enable creative thinking, foresight and active hope in formal and informal environments. In this episode, together with Richard A. Dushl and Olivia Levrini, we will identify three gaps between schools and modern society that do not allow young students to perceive science education as something that has relevance in relation to their lives.