This week I talk to Leon McCarron - an adventurer, journalist and presenter. He has walked across China, kayaked down Iran's longest river and is now establishing walk trails in Iraq and beyond.

We talk about how his adventures were at first a step into the unknown, before he then decided that greater, and more worthwhile, challenges lay elsewhere.

For more on Leon check out: https://www.leonmccarron.com/

Watch the short film "How To Save A Tribe" here on Amazon.