In my eBook, Hallelujah: A Conversation with Leoanrd Cohen, I tell the tale of how meeting LC, my lifelong hero, led to me deciding to become an interviewer to track down more of my heroes to talk with. This clip is from our second interview, and he tells me about the structure of songs like First We Take Manhatten, recites a "discarded" verse from the original version of I Can't Forget, and we talk about the quest to "speak" in a voice that is true. Podcasters take note!