Ward Church Podcast

Lesson 5: Comforting Discipline


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Discipline and comfort—two words we rarely associate, yet Psalm 23 brings them together in a powerful way. In this week's discussion, Small Groups Director Sarah de Jong hosts a thoughtful conversation with Pastor Scott McKee and Pastor Terrance Gray on the meaning behind “Your rod and your staff, they comfort me.” Together, they explore how God’s authority, correction, and protection all serve to guide us, shape us, and ultimately offer peace and strength. Whether you’re a sheep in need of direction or a shepherd called to lead, this episode invites you to trust the Good Shepherd—even when His love looks like discipline.
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