On this episode of For Leaders, Clint meets with Aaron Katz who is the CEO of ClickHouse and an integral part of the Salesforce story. Aaron has been in the enterprise software industry for 25 years, making him an expert in funding expansion and identifying solutions for customer needs. They discuss the stages CEOs and entrepreneurs go through when deciding what to do next with their careers, whether that's investing or starting another company, ultimately weighing the tremendous risk involved with such decisions. Aaron explains how this industry is not for the faint of heart because there are so many factors to take into account when making decisions and maintaining customer expectations. They also talk about self-leadership and how Aaron governs himself impacts his ability to lead others. "I think AI is fundamentally different from what we're seeing. I don't think any of us really know what the next few years are going to look like but it's evolving very, very quickly."