The state of Destiny 2 is at a crossroads… so where do we go from here?In this episode of the podcast, I’m joined by Destiny 2 creators @Toadsmoothie and @LlamaD2 for an honest, unfiltered conversation about the current state of the game, what’s working, what’s not, and what Bungie needs to do next to win players back.We dive deep into:- The biggest issues impacting Destiny 2 right now- Whether the current content model is sustainable- The role of the community in shaping the future- What the "Mid-Season Update” needs to deliver- Our personal hopes (and concerns) for Destiny moving forwardFinally, we round out the conversation by giving a Behind the Scenes look at Llama's New "Darkness Supers" Video in collaborations with Toad to create custom animations. This is a super cool and insightful look into what it looks like to take a project from dream to reality!If you’re a returning player, a hardcore veteran, or someone who’s been on the fence about Destiny’s future, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss.Check out my guest's channels!https://youtube.com/@Toadsmoothiehttps://youtube.com/@LlamaD2#Destiny2 #DestinyPodcast #BungieListen on Spotify & Apple Podcasts, and join the conversation in the comments below.▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Chapters0:00 – Intro & Cold Open Highlights1:10 – Welcome & Guest Intros: LlamaD2 & ToadSmoothie2:22 – Housekeeping & What's Coming to the Channel2:52 – Recapping Renegades & The Mid-Season Delay4:22 – How Has the Drought Been? Toad's Experience & Destiny 1 Resurgence6:41 – Llama's Headspace: Staying Consistent During the Content Lull7:56 – Bungie's History With Delays — Will They Cook Again?9:23 – Community Spotlight: Raid Nights, Sherpas & Keeping the Vibe Alive12:02 – Toad Gets Real: "I Don't Really Play Destiny 2 Right Now"14:30 – Raid Weapon Overhaul — Worth It? Or Missing the Point?17:58 – Are Old Raids Actually Coming Back?20:08 – The Vanilla D2 Problem: Bungie Can't Even Play the Original Game22:10 – Bungie's Split Focus: 800 Devs & More Than Half Are on Marathon23:36 – Marathon Impressions — Did It Land for These Creators?35:04 – Can Bungie Actually Multitask? Divided Attention Discussion37:35 – Marathon vs. Destiny: Nimble Backend, Better Communication39:49 – The Case for a Fresh Start — What Destiny 3 Could Learn From Marathon41:00 – "Capital B Bungie" — Accountability, Staff Turnover & Sony's Role44:43 – Llama's Cope: Is Bungie Saving All the Fixes for June?46:02 – COPIUM SEGMENT: What Are We Hoping to See From Shadow in Order?49:35 – Toad's Wishlist: Old Raids, SRL, Combined Arms & Destiny 352:02 – Llama's Wishlist: Full Raid Restoration & Bringing Back the Director55:45 – What the Reveal NEEDS to Tell Us: A "Destiny Next" Moment1:00:28 – Pantheon 2.0 & What a Witness Encounter Could Look Like1:01:13 – We Need a Clear Villain — Hive Storyline, Zavala, Crow & Loose Ends1:05:46 – The Ahamkara Eggs Nobody's Talking About & Destiny Rising's Secret Raid1:09:00 – The Light & Dark Saga Isn't Over — Why Did Bungie Move On So Fast?1:15:18 – Bungie "Ended" a Saga That Wasn't Finished1:16:16 – Sax's Final Hope1:19:23 – Would They Call It Destiny 3? The Naming Debate1:22:28 – The Open API Problem: Killing Destiny's Mystery From the Inside1:27:03 – There Are Still Destiny Players Out There — They're Just Waiting1:27:35 – Introducing LlamaD2's "Missing Supers" Video — The Chess Move1:29:09 – Behind the Scenes: How the Darkness Supers Concept Was Born1:33:06 – How ToadSmoothie Got Pulled Into the Project1:35:06 – Reacting to the Animations1:36:38 – The Strand Hunter Lasso Inspiration1:44:16 – Strand Titan Minigun Deep Dive1:51:03 – "What If This Is the Last Update Destiny Ever Gets?"1:52:33 – Final Shoutouts, Closing Thoughts & Channel Milestone Update1:54:16 – Outro