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Welcome to the first conversation between Shaina Sakrison and Katja Markelova. Very unprofessional and inappropriate on purpose. Breaking many rules and expectations of what it means to make a good podcast, to be a good practitioner, to be a good human. Very real, raw, and unedited. In the beginning it got very awkward... Please bear with us through the first 10-ish minutes and we will explain exactly WHY it got so awkward.
By Shaina Sakrison and Katja MarkelovaWelcome to the first conversation between Shaina Sakrison and Katja Markelova. Very unprofessional and inappropriate on purpose. Breaking many rules and expectations of what it means to make a good podcast, to be a good practitioner, to be a good human. Very real, raw, and unedited. In the beginning it got very awkward... Please bear with us through the first 10-ish minutes and we will explain exactly WHY it got so awkward.