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#315: The Crew gushes about Encanto, touching on family systems, perfectionism, and growth.
Josué Cardona 0:11
Welcome to GT radio on the Geek Therapy network here at Geek Therapy. We believe that the best way to understand each other and ourselves through the media we care about, my name is Josué Cardona. And I’m joined by Lara Taylor.
Lara Taylor 0:22
Hey.
Josué Cardona 0:23
And Link Keller.
Link Keller 0:24
Hello.
Josué Cardona 0:27
Link. I feel like if we don’t talk about Encanto you are going to burst
Link Keller 0:32
I’m gonna lose it. We gotta talk about Encanto.
Josué Cardona 0:39
Why? Why do you want to talk about this movie?
Link Keller 0:41
I am obsessed. It’s showed up on my for you page on tik tok with a bunch of people talking about how much they loved it and things that they noticed in the background. And I was like, this is interesting and cute. And this song we don’t talk about Bruno. This is fun. I’m enjoying this. I watched the movie. I loved it. So I watched it three more times. Yeah, so I just I think Encanto is a perfect movie for talking Geek Therapy stuff. We’re gonna get into spoilers cuz we got to talk about Bruno.
Josué Cardona 1:24
We do,
Lara Taylor 1:25
and Luisa and Isabella, and Mirabel and all of them.
Link Keller 1:31
Everybody, yes.
Josué Cardona 1:32
Yeah, yes. Yeah. Not, it’s a hell of a movie. Lots to talk about. To talk about. Yeah, I mean, there’s just so many themes. I’ve been, I’ve been thinking a lot about movies like this, or I guess what movies, it’s not too hard for, like shows that just cover so many different topics. It’s like, if we do one library entry for this thing, like, how long is that thing? How helpful is it if we list 27 Different themes, and
Lara Taylor 2:04
it’ll be helpful because someone will search for one of those themes and be like, Oh, I can hit that. And that and that. And that.
Josué Cardona 2:13
That’s, that’s, that’s the plan. That’s the idea. Yeah. So where do you want to start? Link, where do you where do you want to start?
Link Keller 2:22
I, let’s, let’s start more fun and loosey goosey, and then we’ll get into the grittier stuff. So
Lara Taylor 2:30
like the movie!
Link Keller 2:31
just like the movie, wait, what? Did you guys have a favorite song, let’s start there. My favorite song is surface pressure, which is Luisa’s song, and it is a song about feeling the need to be strong to do anything that your family requires of you anything that your community needs of you. And that is what gives you value as a person, and how awful that can feel. Where if if you’re not hitting 100% of what everybody is asking of you, then you are worthless, worth less. And there is a particular line in the song where she says, Oh, God, I have it written down. I feel worthless if I can’t be of service. And that I feel that so deeply?
Josué Cardona 3:30
drip drip of pressure? Yes. Yeah, he’s
Lara Taylor 3:33
we’re watching this movie at the driving and I just yelled out that’s me. In the middle of the song.
Link Keller 3:41
it me. Yes, absolutely.
Josué Cardona 3:45
Yeah. Lara, do you have a favorite song?
Lara Taylor 3:48
That was that was going to be my favorite song. It’s interesting, because when I went into go see them after we’d watch the movie, I was like, I liked all the songs but nothing really stuck in my head at the end, like you know how Moana had. We’re all go and then frozen had of course the I’m not even gonna name off the two that everybody sings. But, um, nothing really stuck in my head. And then after it hit Disney plus, everybody started singing. We don’t talk about Bruno. And I was like, Yep, okay, that’s the one that is the one to catch. If it’s not going to be surface pressure is going to be we don’t talk about Bruno like I was on the gondola. We have the at our zoo. There’s like a gondola that brings you up to the top of the hill. And we could hear people singing as they were passing us in the window. Like, we don’t talk about Bruno. It was great.
Link Keller 4:41
that’s so cute.
Lara Taylor 4:43
And then it got stuck in my head. So yeah, we don’t talk about bruno.
Link Keller 4:47
Yeah, that one is definitely an ear worm. And, and on the first listen, you’re like this is fun. And then when you go back and you listen again, there are so many little, so many little details in there that you don’t pick up on
Lara Taylor 5:00
And they start singing really quickly, like, I’m gonna need to put on captions to, like get more look at the lyrics
Link Keller 5:06
to guess why I always have captions on because I got to see those lyrics.
Josué Cardona 5:12
It’s like, oh, Dolores told us that song that she like knew all along my favorite is Dos Oruguitas. For sure
Lara Taylor 5:23
that one’s been stuck in my head today too, and makes me cry.
Link Keller 5:27
So sweet.
Josué Cardona 5:29
I’ve listened to that song. Many, many, many, many times
Link Keller 5:33
do you listen to the Spanish version or the English version?
Josué Cardona 5:36
I started listening to the English version in preparation for podcasting about about it. But mostly in Spanish. And a big reason is because of what you just said about the details. I, I’ve started thinking, I mean, I’ve started studying this movie. This movie has layers and the symbolism is is surprising to me. And I feel like I’ve never watched a Disney movie that was like this, where I could like keep going back and finding all these different pieces to it. Like, by my third viewing, it wasn’t the same movie that I watched the first time because I realized that I connected all these different it’s almost like an M Night Shyamalan movie. Like you don’t know what you know, and at the end you’re like what?
Lara Taylor 6:30
They’ve been telling us this all along. Yeah, and it’s not as obvious as frozen two’s like the first song tells you the end of the movie.
Josué Cardona 6:38
Yeah, well, yeah, well, it’s yeah, it’s funny
Lara Taylor 6:41
like explicitly
Josué Cardona 6:42
Yeah, yeah. Cuz Dos Oruguitas I feel that way now. Like, the more I listened to it, it wasn’t until a third time that I watched the movie that I was like, I saw it completely differently. But yeah, Dos Oruguitas is my favorite. For sure.
Link Keller 6:55
I Love. I love the detail in the intro song where Mirabel is introducing the family when she introduces abuela of well as part is in tune with the Dos Oruguitas song, which I did not pick up on the first time. The second time was like, oh, oh, that’s that’s her song. That’s her song. It’s her part in the song is that’s beautiful.
Josué Cardona 7:22
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. That’s my that’s my favorite. But but the whole all of the songs were really good. Like, I think, yeah, I like it. Do like some even, like, even like, Lion King was my favorite Disney movie for a very long time. And like, I never really liked the the scar song. What’s the?
Lara Taylor 7:45
be prepared
Josué Cardona 7:46
Be prepared, like, like, every time be prepared to jump. I was like, no, like, I don’t. I don’t love be prepared. But this here’s like, every I think I think every like every time a song comes on, I’m, I’m happy that the song is on. Yeah.
Lara Taylor 8:03
And someone I was talking to this week mentioned t...
#315: The Crew gushes about Encanto, touching on family systems, perfectionism, and growth.
Josué Cardona 0:11
Welcome to GT radio on the Geek Therapy network here at Geek Therapy. We believe that the best way to understand each other and ourselves through the media we care about, my name is Josué Cardona. And I’m joined by Lara Taylor.
Lara Taylor 0:22
Hey.
Josué Cardona 0:23
And Link Keller.
Link Keller 0:24
Hello.
Josué Cardona 0:27
Link. I feel like if we don’t talk about Encanto you are going to burst
Link Keller 0:32
I’m gonna lose it. We gotta talk about Encanto.
Josué Cardona 0:39
Why? Why do you want to talk about this movie?
Link Keller 0:41
I am obsessed. It’s showed up on my for you page on tik tok with a bunch of people talking about how much they loved it and things that they noticed in the background. And I was like, this is interesting and cute. And this song we don’t talk about Bruno. This is fun. I’m enjoying this. I watched the movie. I loved it. So I watched it three more times. Yeah, so I just I think Encanto is a perfect movie for talking Geek Therapy stuff. We’re gonna get into spoilers cuz we got to talk about Bruno.
Josué Cardona 1:24
We do,
Lara Taylor 1:25
and Luisa and Isabella, and Mirabel and all of them.
Link Keller 1:31
Everybody, yes.
Josué Cardona 1:32
Yeah, yes. Yeah. Not, it’s a hell of a movie. Lots to talk about. To talk about. Yeah, I mean, there’s just so many themes. I’ve been, I’ve been thinking a lot about movies like this, or I guess what movies, it’s not too hard for, like shows that just cover so many different topics. It’s like, if we do one library entry for this thing, like, how long is that thing? How helpful is it if we list 27 Different themes, and
Lara Taylor 2:04
it’ll be helpful because someone will search for one of those themes and be like, Oh, I can hit that. And that and that. And that.
Josué Cardona 2:13
That’s, that’s, that’s the plan. That’s the idea. Yeah. So where do you want to start? Link, where do you where do you want to start?
Link Keller 2:22
I, let’s, let’s start more fun and loosey goosey, and then we’ll get into the grittier stuff. So
Lara Taylor 2:30
like the movie!
Link Keller 2:31
just like the movie, wait, what? Did you guys have a favorite song, let’s start there. My favorite song is surface pressure, which is Luisa’s song, and it is a song about feeling the need to be strong to do anything that your family requires of you anything that your community needs of you. And that is what gives you value as a person, and how awful that can feel. Where if if you’re not hitting 100% of what everybody is asking of you, then you are worthless, worth less. And there is a particular line in the song where she says, Oh, God, I have it written down. I feel worthless if I can’t be of service. And that I feel that so deeply?
Josué Cardona 3:30
drip drip of pressure? Yes. Yeah, he’s
Lara Taylor 3:33
we’re watching this movie at the driving and I just yelled out that’s me. In the middle of the song.
Link Keller 3:41
it me. Yes, absolutely.
Josué Cardona 3:45
Yeah. Lara, do you have a favorite song?
Lara Taylor 3:48
That was that was going to be my favorite song. It’s interesting, because when I went into go see them after we’d watch the movie, I was like, I liked all the songs but nothing really stuck in my head at the end, like you know how Moana had. We’re all go and then frozen had of course the I’m not even gonna name off the two that everybody sings. But, um, nothing really stuck in my head. And then after it hit Disney plus, everybody started singing. We don’t talk about Bruno. And I was like, Yep, okay, that’s the one that is the one to catch. If it’s not going to be surface pressure is going to be we don’t talk about Bruno like I was on the gondola. We have the at our zoo. There’s like a gondola that brings you up to the top of the hill. And we could hear people singing as they were passing us in the window. Like, we don’t talk about Bruno. It was great.
Link Keller 4:41
that’s so cute.
Lara Taylor 4:43
And then it got stuck in my head. So yeah, we don’t talk about bruno.
Link Keller 4:47
Yeah, that one is definitely an ear worm. And, and on the first listen, you’re like this is fun. And then when you go back and you listen again, there are so many little, so many little details in there that you don’t pick up on
Lara Taylor 5:00
And they start singing really quickly, like, I’m gonna need to put on captions to, like get more look at the lyrics
Link Keller 5:06
to guess why I always have captions on because I got to see those lyrics.
Josué Cardona 5:12
It’s like, oh, Dolores told us that song that she like knew all along my favorite is Dos Oruguitas. For sure
Lara Taylor 5:23
that one’s been stuck in my head today too, and makes me cry.
Link Keller 5:27
So sweet.
Josué Cardona 5:29
I’ve listened to that song. Many, many, many, many times
Link Keller 5:33
do you listen to the Spanish version or the English version?
Josué Cardona 5:36
I started listening to the English version in preparation for podcasting about about it. But mostly in Spanish. And a big reason is because of what you just said about the details. I, I’ve started thinking, I mean, I’ve started studying this movie. This movie has layers and the symbolism is is surprising to me. And I feel like I’ve never watched a Disney movie that was like this, where I could like keep going back and finding all these different pieces to it. Like, by my third viewing, it wasn’t the same movie that I watched the first time because I realized that I connected all these different it’s almost like an M Night Shyamalan movie. Like you don’t know what you know, and at the end you’re like what?
Lara Taylor 6:30
They’ve been telling us this all along. Yeah, and it’s not as obvious as frozen two’s like the first song tells you the end of the movie.
Josué Cardona 6:38
Yeah, well, yeah, well, it’s yeah, it’s funny
Lara Taylor 6:41
like explicitly
Josué Cardona 6:42
Yeah, yeah. Cuz Dos Oruguitas I feel that way now. Like, the more I listened to it, it wasn’t until a third time that I watched the movie that I was like, I saw it completely differently. But yeah, Dos Oruguitas is my favorite. For sure.
Link Keller 6:55
I Love. I love the detail in the intro song where Mirabel is introducing the family when she introduces abuela of well as part is in tune with the Dos Oruguitas song, which I did not pick up on the first time. The second time was like, oh, oh, that’s that’s her song. That’s her song. It’s her part in the song is that’s beautiful.
Josué Cardona 7:22
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. That’s my that’s my favorite. But but the whole all of the songs were really good. Like, I think, yeah, I like it. Do like some even, like, even like, Lion King was my favorite Disney movie for a very long time. And like, I never really liked the the scar song. What’s the?
Lara Taylor 7:45
be prepared
Josué Cardona 7:46
Be prepared, like, like, every time be prepared to jump. I was like, no, like, I don’t. I don’t love be prepared. But this here’s like, every I think I think every like every time a song comes on, I’m, I’m happy that the song is on. Yeah.
Lara Taylor 8:03
And someone I was talking to this week mentioned t...