Sue and Donna dive headfirst into the grammar debates that keep indie authors up at night — starting with the most divisive punctuation mark on the internet: the em dash. Is it a stylistic power move or a crutch for writers who can't commit to a period? And why does everyone suddenly have such strong opinions about it?

From the Oxford comma wars to the semicolon's identity crisis, this episode unpacks the grammar "rules" that indie authors wrestle with every time they sit down to write. Sue and Donna get honest about their own grammar hang-ups, the mistakes that still slip through even after multiple rounds of editing, and whether perfect grammar actually matters to readers — or just to other authors watching from the sidelines.

They also talk about when breaking the rules is a creative choice versus when it's just... a mistake. Because there's a difference, and most of us have been on both sides of that line.

Whether you're an em dash enthusiast, a hater, or someone who just learned what an em dash is — this one's for you.

What you'll hear in this episode:

• Why the em dash became the internet's most controversial punctuation mark
• The grammar rules indie authors argue about the most
• How to know when "breaking the rules" is working for your writing
• Real talk about the typos and mistakes that haunt every self-published book
• Where readers actually draw the line on grammar in indie fiction

Spilling the tea, the typos, and the plot twists — one episode at a time.