Jack Deverain is joined by traditional healer Gogo Chumile and Pastor Hlengiwe Ramakonopi.

Gogo shares about the meeting point between faith and traditional healing and how she also uses prayer in her healing. 

Mrs Hlengiwe, also a teacher, speaks about how it felt going back to school after the pandemic.

They both address how we can help people who are still battling with the pandemic’s mental health-related effects. They touch on the importance of being open about mental health and embracing the conversation.