Our guest Rev. Christie Bates is a licensed professional counselor and a mindfulness-based spiritual director. As an ordained contemplative minister, she works with some clients specifically around spirituality and mindfulness development. Christie works with people who are early in recovery as well as those who have been in recovery for a longer period of time, who are ready to do a deeper level of healing work. She talks with Alexis and Dr. Rosenthal about breaking through the stigma often attached to mental health therapy and what different aspects of "therapy" look like.

Rev. Christie Bates: https://www.passaticounseling.com/

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