If you ever wanted 'How the heck can I convince this guy' of your position - then this is a must hear episode. Charles Barker is an alumni of the Harvard Negotiation Project and a 30 years expert in 5P Multi Party Collaboration in Health Care. If there is one leader who can help us learn that skill of moving from 'convincing' to 'persuading' through joint interests, is it Chuck Barker. The full episode as annotaed video and slides is also available on the 5P Health Care Solutions homepage.