We are obsessed with the idea that we need to be more productive at all times, and that we’ll be happier people if we just figure out the best way to optimize our productivity. This week, Madeleine Dore joins the podcast to blow up this toxic mindset towards productivity. Madeleine is the author of the book I Didn't Do the Thing Today: Letting Go of Productivity Guilt, which dismantles aspirational routines in favor of the joyful messiness and unpredictability of life. On the pod, she talks to Jon about our complicated relationship with productivity, as well as other self-doubting habits we need to break. She also discusses what we should focus on instead, and how to form a healthier mindset towards creating a meaningful life.