Hafsah and Yen talk to Dr. Cam McComb, Associate Professor of Visual Art Education at Eastern Michigan University, about the continued path of learning, regardless of where or how you do it. Dr. Cam talks to us about what her students think that becoming an art teacher means and what it actually entails. She offers insight on what "creative" means and how it's flexible with possibility for reshaping and growth. And she blows our minds when she tells us that "perfectionism is a learning disability".