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"Whether I understood it or not. He did. And he was there whether I sensed it or not. And I have to look back over my life. A lot of. I had a lot of. Well, a lot of times in my early childhood. I didn't really see God's hand. It's a funny for myself, I always wanted God and actually I felt him. I did feel a presence of God and drawing me basically, I guess, to Him."