In this episode our two hosts discuss on one of the most popular image manipulation called GIMP. Almost a quarter of a century since its inception, it has been the foundation for much more than than image processing; gtk is probably the most widely-known example for the surrounding technology stack beyond GIMP itself. Martin and Chris host Kevin O'Brien, a long-time user of the project over the years and authority on the software and its technology (he runs a regular show on GIMP on Hacker Public Radio among other things). So if you ever wanted to know more about GIMP's rise to fame, its current state and where this may be headed, this is an episode not to be missed.