This episode introduces a somewhat brand-new concept: an off-topic subject. As in: How to excel in the beautiful and ancient art of Origami (the Japanese fine art of paper folding, going back a few centuries if not more). Still reading? Excellent! Jokes aside, in this episode Martin and Chris will shed more light on one of their dark sides of their lives. To be more precise: podcasts the Inlaws (as in: we) listen to. Apart from the most famous one called Linux Inlaws (and if you believe this, you'll believe anything :-)). But stay tuned: If you are longing for more details of the very private life of our two ageing heroes, this is the episode you do not want to miss! Especially if you're into our time-travelling episodes...