A sad week for us as we discuss the passing of Liam Payne. A celebrity very much of the digital era whose life, death and career post-1D open up a lot of topics, ranging from how to grieve a celebrity to the complexities of loving artists who harm others. This conversation is between Satu, who is a Liam girl, and fandom writer Kat McKenna. Respectful comments are welcome below.

We also discuss the announcement of Taylor Swift’s “book”.

Popstars mentioned: Liam Payne, Taylor Swift, Harry Styles, the One Direction boys, Matty Healy.

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