Dave and I are back in the studio, and we've brought along a friend—Joel J. Miller, Chief Content Officer of Michael Hyatt & Company. Dave and Joel are old pals, having worked together at another publisher back in the day, so listen in as they reminisce, while discuss:

• Joel's career in publishing (and what he misses from his time in the industry)
• One of the authors Joel really regrets working with (but it's cool for him to share this since the dude he mentions went to jail for defrauding his congregation)
• What are some good books to read to help someone understand the Eastern Orthodox faith
• Joel's near-encounter with Owen Wilson
• What were the most controversial and/or fun books Joel worked on
• The resurgence of the library
• The importance of editors
• Our hot takes on Star Wars

Plus, a challenge for our listeners: One of you needs to find a copy of this movie and send it to Dave. (Send it to us via work: 1 LifeWay Plaza, Nashville TN, 37234)

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A few of the books we mentioned on this episode:

The Revolutionary Paul Revere and Lifted by Angels by Joel Miller

Welcome to the Orthodox Church by Frederica Mathewes-Green

The Orthodox Church by Timothy Ware

Talking to Strangers by Malcolm Gladwell

Walking with God Through Pain and Suffering by Timothy Keller

The Cold Dish by Craig Johnson

Range by David Epstein

36 Righteous Men by Steven Pressfield

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