This episode features a conversation between two remarkable figures in their fields. Liel Leibovitz is a journalist and author known for his work as a writer and podcast producer for Tablet Magazine. Kenyon Bonner, an expert in higher education, serves as the Vice Provost for Student Affair at the University of Pittsburgh. The two were brought together for a remarkable discussion on race, spirituality, and higher learning under the auspices of the third Social Vision Conference in October of 2021. Please enjoy a selection of highlights from this conversation.