Today we dive into an illuminating conversation between Morgan Wagoner, Western Landowners Alliance's Western Water Program Director, and Zak Podmore, author of Life After Deadpool: Lake Powell's Last Days and the Rebirth of the Colorado River.

Together, they explore topics like the Colorado River's massive silt deposits, mud volcanoes and ever-resilient native species, and the urgent need to reimagine western water management. This discussion comes at a pivotal moment, as states in the upper and lower Colorado River basins remain deeply divided on proposals to reduce water usage before the current rules expire in 2026.

Despite the mounting challenges of climate change and uncertain hydrology, Podmores's new book offers a hopeful perspective, challenging the narrative of insurmountable water issues in the West and inspiring a vision of a future where the Colorado River flows freely once again.

Show notes: https://onland.link/podcast