In this conversation, Cody and Kel discuss personal experiences with health, grief, and the complexities of being part of the trans community in today's political climate. They share stories about their pets, the emotional toll of loss, and the challenges of navigating societal expectations. The discussion shifts to the use of Ozempic for weight loss and its implications, emphasizing the need for holistic health solutions that address underlying issues rather than just symptoms. They conclude with a focus on self-care and the importance of being gentle with oneself during difficult times.