Rog and Col are joined on this episode of the Leadership Counts podcast by Mike Britton, founder of the Pillars.

They chat about Mike's upbringing in South Africa, struggling to find his feet after emigrating to Australia at 17 years of age, how his entrepreneurial journey began, what mantra drove his business and personal relationships, and the power of joining a men's group.

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