We encourage you to listen to part one of this discussion, as well as our episodes on Genesis 6 and God's Divine Council before listening to part two of Division of the Nations.

In part two of two of our discussion on the Division of the Nations we continue our explanation of the events of Genesis 11 - the Tower of Babel - through the clarifying lens of Deuteronomy 32. Here, Moses uses the division that occurred at the Tower of Babel as a teachable moment, a reminder to the Israelites to obey God’s commands. God’s disinheritance of the nations (and assignment to the sons of God) at Babel reminds us of God’s portion - Israel - and how His preservation points us to Jesus. 

Scripture

Deuteronomy 32:8

Deuteronomy 32

Psalm 82

Genesis 11

Genesis 10

Genesis 2

Genesis 6

Revelation 4

1 Enoch 6-8

Genesis 10:24

Jasher 27

Psalm 2

Psalm 7

Psalm 8

Matthew 24:6-13

Isaiah 55:8-9

Revelation 20

Genesis 3:15

Ephesians 6

Ephesians 5:11

2 Corinthians 3:16-18

Deuteronomy 32:7

References

Brian Godawa (https://godawa.com/) 

Dr. Michael Heiser, The Unseen Realm, ch 14, (https://drmsh.com/books/) 

Dr. Laura Sanger, Roots of the Federal Reserve and Generation Hoodwinked (https://nolongerenslaved.com/) 

Pangaea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea) 

United Nations (pause and consider these two words and what entity they represent, while also considering our discussion in this episode):

CERN (https://home.cern/about/who-we-are/our-mission)

Shiva statue at CERN (https://cds.cern.ch/record/745737?ln=en) 

Episode Notes

Join us as we share personal stories connected to Thanksgiving memories, historical context for the holiday, as well as discuss what it means to give thanks to God in our everyday life. We even share what we have on our Thanksgiving tables…and according to Shan, you truly can put gravy on everything. 

Scripture

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

1 Chronicles 16:34

Psalm 85

Psalm 23

The book of Job

References

Reckless Love by Cory Asbury

Highlands Benjamin William Hastings

Hard Fought Hallelujah by Brandon Lake

Gratitude by Brandon Lake

We encourage you to listen to Genesis 6 and Divine Council episodes before listening to our discussion on Division of the Nations.

In part one of two of our discussion on the Division of the Nations we trace the origins of Babel, which was the epicenter of Nimrod’s kingdom and where the tower was built in an attempt to reach heaven. We give consideration to the state of the world in Noah’s day prior to the flood, connect the dots of lineage so as to understand the context of ancient Babylon, and in closing out part one we point to Deuteronomy 32, explaining its significance within the Biblical worldview. 

Scripture

Genesis 6:1-8

Genesis 7:6 and 11

Genesis 10

Jasher 4-7*

2 Corinthians 3:16

1 Enoch 6*

Psalm 82

Psalm 89

Isaiah 6

Genesis 10:8-10

Jasher 7:23-30

Genesis 9:20-25

Leviticus 18:8

1 Enoch 6:2

Jasher 7-8

Genesis 16:2

Genesis 11:1-9

*The extra-biblical text of Jasher is mentioned in canonized Scripture (2 Samuel 1:18 and Joshua 10:13 for example). Similarly, the book of Enoch is referenced in Jude 1:14-16 and 2 Peter 2:4-5.

References:

- Genealogy chart (there are many, we often reference this one: https://pin.it/2WmRxS44J)

- Dr. Michael Heiser (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Michael-S.-Heiser/author/B00JX3934O?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true)

- Dr. Laura Sanger (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Laura-Sanger-Ph.D./author/B08R44HV8X?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1732192793&sr=1-1&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true)

Nephilim, giants, and hybrids…oh my! 

Meg and Shan discuss the what, who, why, and how of the Nephilim, the hybrid offspring of the fallen sons of God and human women (Genesis 6:1-4). Always steeped in Scripture, the conversation includes biblical references to giants, Nephilim bloodlines, Rephaim, and the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim - origin of demons - that span throughout the Old and New Testaments. Buckle up for this one.

Scripture

Ephesians 5:11

2 Corinthians 3:16

Genesis 6:1-4

Matthew 24:37, 39

Genesis 3:15-16

1 Enoch 6*

Numbers 13:17-24

Genesis 6:4, Geneva Bible translation

Genesis 9:20-25

Leviticus 18:8

Deuteronomy 3 (verses 11 and 13 mention Rephaim)

Genesis 10:8-14

1 Samuel 17

Genesis 18-19

1 Samuel 16:12 and 18

Job 26:5-6

Psalm 88:10

Isaiah 14

1 Enoch 15:8

2 Samuel 1:18 (see also: Joshua 10:13)

Ephesians 6:12

1 Enoch 15:11

Matthew 8:28-34

Matthew 24:36-39

*Book of Enoch is referenced in canonized books of the Bible; see Jude 1:14-16, for example. Jude was a close relative (some scholars believe brother, brother-in-law, or cousin) of Jesus.

References

Genesis 6 episode (https://www.liftingtheveilpodcast.com/podcast/genesissix) 

Divine Council episode (https://www.liftingtheveilpodcast.com/podcast/godsdivinecouncil) 

Bible Hub (https://biblehub.com/) 

Brown Driver Briggs Lexicon (https://www.amazon.com/Brown-Driver-Briggs-Hebrew-English-Lexicon-Concordance/dp/B00E295DZC) 

Biblical map (12 Tribes is a start: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:12_Tribes_of_Israel_Map.svg) 

The Roots of the Federal Reserve and Generation Hoodwinked, Dr Laura Sanger (https://www.amazon.com/Books-Laura-Sanger-Ph-D/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3ALaura+Sanger+Ph.D.) 

Noah’s Nakedness, the Sin of Ham, the Curse of Canaan, Dr. Michael Heiser (https://nakedbiblepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/NB-159-Transcript-1.pdf) 

Unseen Realm and other texts, Dr. Michael Heiser (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Michael-S.-Heiser/author/B00JX3934O?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true) 

Neanderthal genetics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_genetics#:~:text=Approximately%2020%20percent%20of%20Neanderthal,maximum%20of%203%25%20per%20human.) 

Solomon Islands (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Islands#) 

A Giant from the Terrible Solomons, Fondation Gandur Pour L’Art (https://www.fg-art.org/en/artwork-of-the-month-archives/a-giant-from-the-terrible-solomons) 

Conversation: Witchcraft

Episode Notes

Meg and Shan discuss witchcraft as mentioned in the Bible, and make connections to how these ancient practices are still around today.

Scripture (in order of mention):

Ephesians 5:11

Isaiah 5:20

Exodus 7

Levitical Law

Leviticus 26:11-13

Leviticus 26:14

Leviticus 26:25; 33

2 Chronicles 33:6

Leviticus 20:27

Leviticus 20:6

Leviticus 19:31

Enoch 8

Revelation 18:23

Revelation 21:8

Galatians 5:16-26

Joshua

Judges

1 Samuel 28

Luke 16:19-31

1 Samuel 15:23

Ephesians 6:10-21

Genesis 6:1-8

Ezekiel 1:1

Joel 2:28

2 Corinthians 3:16-18

References

Dr. Laura Sanger, The Roots of Halloween

(https://nolongerenslaved.com/blogs/no-longer-enslaved/the-roots-of-halloween) 

Dr. Laura Sanger on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/laurasanger444hz/?hl=en) 

Blurry Creatures, Divine Dreams episode (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-274-divine-dreams-with-tom-doyle/id1526885135?i=1000673240002) 

Meg and Shan kick off their “Conversations” series with a talk about faith, and what it means to step out in truth and walk with God.

Scripture:

Romans 12:2

John 8:1-11

John 8:12 

Exodus 20:7 and 14

Galatians 5:16-25

Ephesians 5:11

Matthew 5:9

Ephesians 6:10-23

Matthew 6:9-13

Exodus 23:21

John 1:1

Matthew 26:26-29

John 6:53-71

John 6:35 

Exodus 19

Genesis 3

Genesis 1:3

Ephesians 5:22-27

Matthew 28:19-20

Genesis 2:18

Proverbs 31:10-31

References:

The Bible Recap (https://www.thebiblerecap.com/)

The Unsaved Christian: Reaching Cultural Christianity with the Gospel (https://a.co/d/gQgUayA) 

Jesus is the light in Genesis 1  (https://answersingenesis.org/jesus/jesus-word-life-and-light/)

Bible Studies to help you get started studying The Word

(https://thedailygraceco.com/collections/all-bible-studies)

YouVersion Bible App (https://www.youversion.com/the-bible-app/)

God's Divine Council Episode Notes

Meg and Shan discuss God’s Divine Council, His heavenly family. We try to help listeners connect the dots between the Old and New Testament Scriptures that tell us about God’s throne room, and what God’s Divine Council and family means for believers.

Scripture

Lifting the Veil: 2 Corinthians 3:16-18

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 4:5-6

Job 1:6 38:4-7

Daniel 7:9-10,13-14

Isaiah 6

Ezekiel 1:26-27 (also chapter 10 especially)

Psalm 11

Psalm 82

Luke 17:24-25

Ephesians 2:4-10

Ephesians 6:12

Galatians 5

Romans 8:12-17

Revelation 1; 4

Resources

Dr. Michael Heiser, The Unseen Realm

The Bible Project, Divine Council

Bible Hub

Strong’s Concordance

Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon

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Meg and Shan discuss Genesis 6:1-8, when the sons of God rebelled and took human wives for themselves. Understanding the truth of this passage is, we argue, foundationally critical when it comes to building your faith in and deepening your relationship with God. 

Consider listening and following along in our conversation with your Bible. Here are some of the passages we reference in this episode:

Genesis 3:11-15

Genesis 5:21-24

Genesis 6:1-8

Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:4-7

2 Peter:1-10

Leviticus 16:8

John 19:30

Matthew 24:36-39

Ephesians 6:10-20

Extra-Biblical Texts:

1 Enoch 6-9

Jubilees 5 and 10

References we recommend for this episode:

Books

Heiser, Michael. Reversing Hermon: Enoch, the Watchers and the Forgotten Mission of Jesus Christ

Heiser, Michael. The Unseen Realm

Online resources

Bible Hub (learn Hebrew and Greek meanings as you read scripture)

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