Lindsey sits down with visual designer and educator Marjan Khatibi to discuss designing with immersive technologies — and the tension they create of occupying two realities at once. Awe, they find, isn't always light; it can carry grief, displacement, and a felt sense of someone else's reality, and it's often that weight that makes immersive experiences powerful vehicles for empathy. The conversation moves through the opportunities and limits of immersive tech and what it looks like to teach design keeping genuine human impact in mind.
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