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In this episode of DevOps Sauna, Darren and Pinja share their thoughts on liminal spaces and ideas on how transitional spaces can be applied to software development.

Darren and Pinja also note that AI is shifting the software development landscape, highlighting the trends organizations will need to adapt to stay on top.

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