In this episode, Lee and Ces finds inspiration from one of the lines from Marcus Aurelius' 'Meditations.' It's the line about not needing to be ashamed about asking for help from a comrade. They talk about the help we need from others, especially in turbulent times marked by political upheaval and social challenges.

The conversation touches on the impacts of the new American administration, their personal struggles, the importance of community and shared values, and the enduring power of art and compassion.

Through this episode, they emphasize the need for community, compassion and resilience in the continuing fight for equality and justice.

00:00 Introduction and Greetings

00:19 Introducing the Trigger Line

00:40 Reflections on Needing Help

01:08 Personal Struggles and Resilience

04:13 Impact of the New Administration

08:41 Fighting for Equality and Rights

10:55 The Power of Art and Community

12:27 Concluding Thoughts