Messy Middlescence

Lisa Kramer and the Little Miracles of Change


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To us here at Messy Middlescence, when we hear the word “reinvention”, it has a magical connotation to it. We are not sure why. Because when you look closely, reinvention isn’t easy - it involves tremendous work, determination, and a willingness to step into the unknown. Reinvention is a conscious process of transforming one’s life, career or mindset -- or sometimes all three. It requires letting go of what is familiar and comfortable and stepping toward something new without a clear map.

The desire to reinvent oneself, one’s mindset or one’s career can happen at any age. Most of us have experienced this desire at some point in our lives and it can be the motivation for significant change. But true reinvention, the kind that leads to meaningful, lasting change, is much more unusual. And perhaps that is where the “magic” comes in.

True reinvention requires something deeper than hard work and determination. It asks us to listen to that quiet inner voice, the one that is so often drowned out by fear, societal pressures and existing responsibilities. Learning to hear and trust that voice is what makes real transformation possible.

Today we speak with Lisa Kramer, founder and president of Leading with Intention who has followed that inner voice time and again — successfully reinventing her professional life multiple times along the way.

In our conversation, Lisa shares her own experiences with reinvention as well as the work she does supporting others through similar transitions. Her recent pivot to retirement coaching focuses on helping individuals and couples design their next chapter with intention and clarity which feels relevant to anyone navigating change.

Lisa brings both honesty and wisdom to this conversation. She helps us see that reinvention is both practical and, in its own way, a little bit magical.

In this episode, we explore:

  • How Lisa’s background in social work shaped her approach as a coach
  • The role of relationships, connection, and community especially as we age
  • Her experiences navigating the challenges of an aging parent and what supported her most
  • How creating a personal manifesto can offer clarity and direction
  • The idea of “purpose with a little “p” and why it can feel more accessible and fulfilling.
  • The difficulty, and necessity, of letting go of identity at different stages of life
  • Why reinvention is so hard": there is no formula, no clear path and no “instruction manual”
  • How fear and discomfort show up in times of change and why the outcome often surprises us
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Messy MiddlescenceBy Tara (Conti) Bansal and Christina (Conti) Donovan