In her very first interview Lena is talking to Lisa Rowland from BATS Improv in San Francisco. Not only is Lisa an amazing improviser, she is also a delightful conversation partner. She talks about taking on the artistic directorship of BATS just before the pandemic shook the world. She talks about living side by side with San Francisco's tech freaks and how she misses the weirdos in the city. She talks about the comfort of wearing leggins all day. And she talks about her love for improvisation which to her is more than just an art form.