This week Kevin and Niseema invite Charley Wininger LP, LMHC, author of Listening to Ecstasy: The Transformative Power of MDMA, back for his third appearance on the show to discuss why he calls MDMA, "The Chemical of Connection." Charley reads pivotal passages that describe the physical and emotional responses that MDMA creates, as well as its bonding effects in both his relationship with his spouse and some courageous couples who are exploring MDMA as an option.

Charley talks about a recent New York Times article that discusses FDA approval for the use of medical MDMA for treatments of PTSD, substance abuse, obsessive-compulsive disorder, phobias, eating disorders, depression, end-of-life anxiety and social anxiety in autistic adults. The FDA is currently in Phase 3 clinical trials that are expected to clear the way for legal use by 2023.