Stress Mess: Laughing Through Trauma

Listening to Understand: Coaching Wisdom from John Flagg


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In this raw and deeply honest episode, Katie sits down with powerlifting coach & clinician, John Flagg. The very first person who helped her find and use her voice during one of the hardest seasons of her life. What follows is a conversation that pulls no punches. Touching on trauma, the power of presence, emotional regulation, and what it really means to hold space for someone without trying to fix them.


Together, they explore:

  • The moment John unknowingly became the catalyst for this very podcast
  • Why saying “I’m proud of you” might land the wrong way.. and what to say instead
  • How to support someone through pain without needing to fix or rescue them
  • Reframing emotions as messages, not problems
  • The underrated magic of curiosity over judgment
  • Using the barbell as a mirror for emotional and mental health
  • The phrase that helps re-center when things feel out of control: “Control the controllables”


If you're someone trying to show up more fully for yourself and the people you love, this episode will challenge you to rethink how you listen, how you lead, and how you heal.



Connect with John Flagg
  • Instagram: @john.rebuild_stronger
  • Website: https://rebuildstronger.net

Connect with Katie O'Leary, LPC
  • Instagram: @katieostresscoaching
  • Website: www.oakmountainmh.com

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Stress Mess: Laughing Through TraumaBy Katherine O'Leary