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Listening Within and Finding That Inner Voice

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What does your inner voice really sound like? How do we learn to trust it? What happens when we don’t…and more importantly, what happens when we do? 

The search for and process of leaning into our inner guidance is a theme we’ve explored before with guests Drea Bendewald and Alexis Pokorny Kahlow (Ep. #006), whose unique journeys have led them to lead circles and hold space for other women doing their own inner work. 

Today, we turn to the guys. What are the specific challenges that men encounter on the road to listening and trusting your inner guide? How can we as men learn to distinguish our “true” inner voice from all the others? How can we reconnect with this innate guide, and what kind of transformations await us on the other side? 

For this walk, I'm joined by Matt Hogan, and I’m pleased to welcome back Billy Ward.


In This Episode

  • (01:53) Learning to trust your inner teacher
  • (03:31) What do we do when our inner voice starts to speak up? 
  • (08:33) How Billy learned to differentiate between mind chatter and his inner guide
  • (11:56) What happens when we surrender to the flow of life?
  • (15:19) Matt’s journey to embracing his inner voice
  • (21:56) Why Matt once walked away from his inner guide, and what brought him back
  • (26:40) The evolution of Billy’s relationship with his inner voice
  • (33:20) How Billy’s Kairos work helps young men find themselves and embrace their journeys
  • (39:54) Billy’s path relearning to trust his inner voice
  • (41:23) Matt’s revelations with mirroring
  • (46:10) How do we build a culture where men feel free to share their stories?
  • (49:56) The ongoing process of developing self-trust
  • (54:00) When you find yourself seeking trust, ask yourself what you fear 
  • (57:40) How Matt creates and holds space for himself via circling


    • Notable Quotes

    • “For me, it really comes down to one question in terms of the thoughts that are coming through: does this thought come from love and truth, or does this thought come from fear? And for me, it's really easy for me to identify those thoughts that come from love and truth. And if I don't want to identify or acknowledge them, the universe is beautifully working, always, and will keep bringing that message up until I say, ‘Hey, you're trying to talk to me. You just keep bringing up this, this truth. I need to be able to look at it if I'm gonna honor that relationship with myself.’ … The quality of our life is often dependent upon the quality of questions that we're willing to ask.” – Billy (09:33)
    • “So often our lives feel linear, like we're just kind of stepping through on this horizontal chessboard, moving through life from point A to B, to C to D, and those can take the shape of job, marriage, house, retirement, death. But what we're talking about here is not linear by any stretch of the imagination. And it is a very cyclical experience in that you start to have these moments. I remember being seven years old and staring in the mirror going, ‘What am I? I'm in here? I'm in here. What am I doing in here? What is this?’ It was really, really fascinating. Distinguishing between the mental chatter and this still small voice, the essence of who I believe that I truly am, has both saved my life on numerous occasions.” – Matt (15:19)


      • Our Guests

      Matt Hogan is a life coach, consciousness explorer and breath-work facilitator who helps entrepreneurs and other leaders accelerate their own internal change for greater impact in their work and lives. 

      Billy Ward is a motivational speaker, mental health advocate, life coach and former professional football player. His podcast, The Billy Ward Podcast, aims to help people live with greater awareness so that they can experience more peace, freedom, joy and love.


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