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đď¸ Mini Episode 1 â Live at Leadhership: The Unspoken Rule Holding Women Leaders Back
Guest: Amy Dujon
Host: Arvin Ross + Dr. Michelle Ament
Presented by: The Human Intelligence Movement
đEpisode Summary:
Recorded live at the Leadhership Conference, this episode of Unscripted Intelligence dives into the unspoken rule thatâs been holding women leaders back â the belief they have to do it all.
Hosts Michelle Ament and Arvin Ross sit down with Amy Dujon for a bold, human conversation about the âRescuer and Robberâ trap â how rescuing others from discomfort might feel compassionate but can rob them of growth and confidence. Together, they explore what authentic leadership looks like in the Intelligence Age: unlearning control, embracing productive struggle, and creating conditions for others to rise.
đĄ Themes:
Women in leadership and the future of work
Letting go of perfectionism and control
Building trust, courage, and human connection
Authentic leadership and emotional intelligence in the AI era
đ§ Donât rescue. Donât rob. Lead human.
đď¸About the Hosts:
Michelle Ament and Arvin Ross come from different generations, experiences, and disciplinesâbut their unlikely partnership is built on mutual curiosity, deep listening, and a shared belief in the power of human connection. Their conversations are real, unscripted, and often challengingâin all the right ways.
Dr. Michelle Ament Co-President of the Human Intelligence Movement & Chief Academic Officer at ProSolve.
Arvin Ross Co-Founder of ProSovle, educator, speaker, and adaptability enthusiast.
Jena Crossland â Production Manager for Unscripted Intelligence and Director of Operations + Marketing for the Human Intelligence Movement.
đJoin the Movement:
Website: â Humanintelligencemovement.org
Email: â [email protected]â
Follow â @HumanIntelligenceMovementâ on LinkedIn for live shows and episode updatesÂ
Watch live every Thursday at 6pm EST on LinkedIn + YouTube
By The Human Intelligence Movementđď¸ Mini Episode 1 â Live at Leadhership: The Unspoken Rule Holding Women Leaders Back
Guest: Amy Dujon
Host: Arvin Ross + Dr. Michelle Ament
Presented by: The Human Intelligence Movement
đEpisode Summary:
Recorded live at the Leadhership Conference, this episode of Unscripted Intelligence dives into the unspoken rule thatâs been holding women leaders back â the belief they have to do it all.
Hosts Michelle Ament and Arvin Ross sit down with Amy Dujon for a bold, human conversation about the âRescuer and Robberâ trap â how rescuing others from discomfort might feel compassionate but can rob them of growth and confidence. Together, they explore what authentic leadership looks like in the Intelligence Age: unlearning control, embracing productive struggle, and creating conditions for others to rise.
đĄ Themes:
Women in leadership and the future of work
Letting go of perfectionism and control
Building trust, courage, and human connection
Authentic leadership and emotional intelligence in the AI era
đ§ Donât rescue. Donât rob. Lead human.
đď¸About the Hosts:
Michelle Ament and Arvin Ross come from different generations, experiences, and disciplinesâbut their unlikely partnership is built on mutual curiosity, deep listening, and a shared belief in the power of human connection. Their conversations are real, unscripted, and often challengingâin all the right ways.
Dr. Michelle Ament Co-President of the Human Intelligence Movement & Chief Academic Officer at ProSolve.
Arvin Ross Co-Founder of ProSovle, educator, speaker, and adaptability enthusiast.
Jena Crossland â Production Manager for Unscripted Intelligence and Director of Operations + Marketing for the Human Intelligence Movement.
đJoin the Movement:
Website: â Humanintelligencemovement.org
Email: â [email protected]â
Follow â @HumanIntelligenceMovementâ on LinkedIn for live shows and episode updatesÂ
Watch live every Thursday at 6pm EST on LinkedIn + YouTube