This week's episode comes live from the balcony of a woodland lodge in the Chiltern Hills, fresh off the back of the very first residential Agile Leader retreat.

Joined over the course of a day and a half by ten senior legal leaders, plus regular podcast guests Victoria Smith-Murphy and Sean Brooking, the retreat explored what it really means to lead with agility.

In this episode, Claire and Helen reflect on the themes that surfacedd, the paradox of performance versus wellbeing, the consensus that human connection is craved more than ever in the age of AI, tand what it means to sit in the in-between.

We also get a little visit from some deer!

With thanks to our sponsors for this episode:

JHB & Partners: https://jhbandpartners.com/

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Meeting teams where they already work, embedding seamlessly into tools like Outlook, Teams, Slack, Salesforce, and HubSpot, Summize makes adoption simple. With self-serve contracting to reduce workload, seamless integrations to create structure, and powerful AI that supports and enhances legal expertise, Summize helps legal teams operate with confidence and clarity, freeing up that all-important capacity so that we humans can focus on the areas where we add unique value. 

Get in touch with them at www.summize.com - and mention the How to Thrive podcast.

Your How to Thrive hosts:

Claire Sanders, former Corporate Lawyer, General Council and Co-Founder of .

Helen Silver-MacMahon, Human Factors Specialist, Veterinary Nurse and Co-Founder of Being Human Consulting.

Music Credit: Lo-Fi Hip Hop (Never Old Fashioned) by Alex Kizenkov

Podcast Production: Anthony Zahra

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