Episode 30: Live in the pub, wobbles, falls over

Live Google Hangouts are hard. Too hard for us. After the technical collapse of the Google Hangout, we decided to record locally and put up what we had. Recording locally is hard too (apparently), and much of it was lost. Finally, the batteries in our laptops died, and that was that.  However, we did manage to record some followup (antlers), the ethics of killing animals because you're interested in them, Darren and Memo's talks at LonCon 3, and finally, a pseudo cash for question from new listener John Conway, what is the most boring Tetrapod? We will be returning to normal format for episode 31, with proper followup and all you Cash for Questions! Download here.