This episode was recorded live at Sacramento's CLARA Auditorium. Josh Fernandez and Terra Lopez talk about their lives, approach to their work and butting heads with authority before a Q&A with the audience.

Josh Fernandez's memoir "The Hands that Crafted the Bomb" is out now, published by PM Press.

Find Terra Lopez's music on Bandcamp and other streaming platforms. Her podcast is called "This is What It Feels Like."