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In this deeply moving episode, we speak with Daniela Hupenbecker, a non Jewish woman from Berlin whose life took an unexpected turn after the events of October 7. Watching from Germany, she found herself horrified by what she was seeing unfold in Israel and equally disturbed by the hostility emerging on the streets of her own city.

Although she had never previously visited Israel, Daniela felt compelled to act. Over the course of the year that followed, she became one of the driving forces behind more than 300 counter protests in Berlin, standing in visible support of Israel amidst weekly pro Palestinian demonstrations. Her advocacy came at a personal cost. She faced threats, online abuse, and intimidation, including a Star of David daubed on her front door. Yet she did not retreat. She chose to stand firm.

One year later, Daniela boarded a plane to Israel for the first time. What began as conviction from afar became a deeply personal connection. Since that first visit, she has returned six times, volunteering through Sar El on army bases, donating blood during each trip, and serving at Shlomi’s food truck near Kibbutz Be’eri to provide meals for soldiers.

This conversation explores what it means to confront antisemitism and anti Zionism in contemporary Germany, what courage looks like when standing in the minority, and how one individual can transform outrage into sustained action. Emotional, honest, and inspiring, this episode tells the story of a woman who chose to stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel during one of its darkest hours.

We hope you find it as powerful to listen to as it was to record

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