In this episode of That's So Rad Podcast, host Travis reconnects with his friend and high school classmate, Isaac Schaan. Up until recently, the two hadn't talked since graduation in 1998. They make up for lost ground going deep and wide in this conversation. Here's a snapshot of things they cover in this jam packed episode:

• Shared experiences growing up in the small farming town of Rugby, North Dakota.
• Lessons from the farm
• Ike's javelin incident in high school and other sports stories
• Beards and pro grooming tips
• The role of faith in life
• Adoption and engaging foster care
• Losing their dads and lessons in grief

**The two spend a good bit of time talking about adoption, where Isaac shares his family's journey of adopting three siblings, highlighting the challenges and blessings that come with it. Travis shares part of his own story as well and what led him into foster care and adoption. They emphasize the importance of understanding trauma in adopted children and the significant need for foster and adoptive parents.

Isaac and Travis have also lost their dads within the last few years. Isaac shares about his dad and what he meant to him as his son and his community. They discuss grief, healing from loss, and navigating life after losing a parent.