My guest for this episode is Reza Aslan. During our conversation, we discussed his decision to retire from public life; how he came to an understanding on what “living his best life” actually means; the concept of nationalism in relation to figuring out who you are (or, for some people, who you aren’t); why learning things simply to learn them is a big deal; becoming a pretty solid cook late in life; and ultimately, why he loves the Raiders.

This episode was produced by Justin Gott.
Music composed by Justin Lebens.