In this episode of the Security Visionaries podcast, host Emily Wearmouth chats with Netskope's Chief Scientist, Mark Day. They delve into the topic of AI, particularly large language models (LLMs), and why Mark believes they are "bullshitters." Despite this assertion, they discuss how these models can still be valuable and where AI truly shines within Netskope's systems. They also explore the difference between generative AI and agentic AI and touch on the future of AI and art. Expect a thought-provoking and slightly sweary conversation that challenges conventional views on artificial intelligence.