Reporter Alexei Koseff joins host Dominic Fracassa to talk about his investigation showing that some state lobbying firms improperly received pandemic-relief loans they weren't eligible for. It’s yet another example of the slapdash rollout of PPP loans during the chaos of the COVID-19 pandemic. | Unlimited Chronicle access: sfchronicle.com/pod

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