What happens when you get two news-obsessed former reporters together, and then they start talking about what’s been happening in local journalism for the past couple of decades? You get a far-reaching conversation about ideas like trust, objectivity, editorial direction, economic constraints, and individual ambition, and you get the first segment of a brand new podcast I’m starting with my friend Will Rothschild.

After that, we revisit the piece I recently wrote about JD Vance, delving deeper into the roots of his worldview and its newest expression as Trump’s running mate.

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