Live-to-air radio interview with Piers Cunningham and Brendon Telfer. As Melbourne emerges from 2 weeks of stage 4 lockdown, attention returns to the origins of the virus. Did the pandemic result from animal to human transmission of covid or was it a leak from the secretive Wuhan Institute of Virology? And to complicate matters further, was the US involved in funding some of the Chinese 'gain of function' research looking at ways to make naturally-occurring corona viruses even more deadly?