This episode was produced during the Coronavirus lockdown. The episode explores a variety of ways in which creative and techy people make sense of why they done what they do. To mark the conversion of London's Excel Centre into a field hospital, the episode contains an interview with Jonathan Sullivan from Britannica during the Bett Show. We also chat to Michael Heverin from Supplywell about their game changing recruitment app. We also hear Eirin Hallengen about what creativity means and Ron Cole about Superreading.