Lance previously joined me at RSAC in March. If you saw Mr Robot Decoded - the warmup show for Mr Robot season 2 you'll have seen Lance talking about what drives hackers. So we thought wouldn't it be good to really do a deep dive about why hackers do what they do, what it means for you. This is education as good as it gets and it's costing you nothing to listen to. This is part 1 of a 2 part show. Tune in next week for the next one.