Loitering with Evan Ratliff is a conversation with Evan Ratliff about his career trajectory as a journalist and podcast host, and the backstory behind "Shell Game," the podcast he created about the influence of AI in our lives. To read the accompanying newsletter, please visit loitering.substack.com.

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