This was a discussion podcast that featured Jack Harper and Michael (Skinny) Cavallo. The topic was treatments. Jack is a recovery coach and Skinny had been a recovery specialist. We talked about Long Island's road back to helping people. We also covered medically assisted treatment. Jack gives us insight into what it's like to be a dedicated recovery coach whose phone never stops ringing. Skinny goes into his experience in advocacy in New Jersey and giving speeches in schools. Both of these gentlemen are beautiful poeple with lots of insight. We had a great time!