Not every student who studies astronomy will go on to be an astronomer. In fact only a minority will do so. What do they do when they've completed a PhD or Masters? The EU-funded SKIES project is designed to help students navigate the world out there, and here are Michelle Willebrand from Leiden University in The Netherlands, and Lucia Marchetti, a lecturer in astronomy from the University of Cape Town, talking about training that's taken place this week at the UCT Graduate School of Business.